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Post  diamondsandpearls on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:16 pm

Oh how long it seems since Saturday! Much water has no doubt passed under many proverbial and imaginary bridges and everyone is now looking towards the coming Saturday and isn't in the least bit interested in the past. But as I haven't, until now, had an opportunity to have my thousand pounds worth (because, let's face it, I can never stick to a mere two penn'orth), you will have to get in the nice new Doctor's time machine and head back with me to last weekend and all things Hallow-eek...

(In case you were wondering, I haven't had a chance to visit wifi-land because I have been entertaining friends and their very adorable 1 year old baby, who is now my new best friend - together we enjoyed many, many games of 'Open/Closed' involving the door of his Postman Pat truck and occasionally the stuffing inside of a Minion who said 'Bananas!' in a funny voice.  So funny we both rolled about on the floor laughing our socks off - the cute rabbit ones my Mum sent him in his case, and my nice stripey Smartwool ones in my case. I really do live the dream Laughing Laughing Laughing)

Anyway, here it is, written on Sunday and before any of your comments had been read:  (off to catch up with pages and pages of them now!

Well, it all seemed a bit lack lustre, with so many couples going backwards score-wise rather than forwards. Even the judges seemed to be very underwhelmed.

And then… BAM!  Along came Faye and Gio’s Fosse-tabulous Couple’s Choice. It was outstanding.  The theme and the choreography seemed to marry for once – I think the staccato moves of a Fosse-esque routine fitted in with how zombies are usually depicted to move.  It was crisp, slick, exciting, sophisticated and superbly performed. Faye and Gio were equals in that performance. A standing ovation from me. Dance of the night and very possibly of the series – which, given my bemusement at them deciding to include non-ballroom/latin dancing, is a bit of a climb down. But a great dance is a great dance and I loved this one to bits.

Ashley was of course good in her Charl-es-ston, but the theme really got in the way – those big boots hid the amazing swivel we saw in the rehearsals, and the make up hid the facial expressions.  The tune wasn’t terribly Charleston-y and it just, well, underwhelmed me as a performance, even whilst I could see the execution was very accomplished.

Dianne surprised me.  I’ll admit it.  I have been so firmly agin her and her choreography all series (and last) that I wasn’t expecting a foxtrot on a themed week that would in any shape or form resemble the foxtrot I know and love (along with Aljaz). But basically she just put together a very nice foxtrot, but just dressed a bit weirdly. I was really pleasantly surprised, and Joe did pretty with it, though I wouldn’t have been as gushy as the judges.  I feel they want him in the finals as the non-ringer, been on a j ourney person, to counteract the very professional Ashley and Faye.
The rest?  Meh.

The worst?  Easily Dr Ranj.  Poor chap – what was the thought behind that costume?  He looked like he was dancing through treacle.
There are now several people in the running for bye-bye time.  There is nothing between the lower s lebs, so based on my very personal afors and agins of the pros I would like to see Dr Ranj to go next, then Seann (that one is a s leb Agin) then Lauren, and then, purely based on the judges scores it would have to be Kate.  But based on my Pro Agins, I would get rid of Charles before her – and even before Lauren. Then it’ll be Graeme.

Special mention for Kate as the Ice-Queen… Utterly gorgeous and only outfit of the night worth commenting on (other than the outrageous awfulness of Dr Ranj, obvs). Though Faye and Gio did  both look bizarrely sexy in their costumes….. (is that a bit weird?)
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 pm

Oh.

Most of you seemed ot get a lot more fun and entertainment out of the show than I did, with only one person (I think it was Mauve?) as wowed by Faye and Gio as I was (the person who wanted to give them 11...).  And yes, Gio was late with his sunglasses - which goes to show how good Faye is, becuase they were both learning the dance from someone else's choreography and as I mentioned, Faye was easily Gio's equal.  And in this instance, better...

All agreed on poor old S miley Doctor and his bizarre boots and fluffiness.

And you all seem to agree with me about the Judge's overt gushiness over Joe and the reasoning behind though!

Some interesting thoughts about the difficulties with the Chax3 - I think it began to be 'difficult' last year, or maybe even the year before, but certainly before that it was one of the earlier dances to get them into the feel of Latin. I used to enjoy it, but I've gone off it, whereas I used to think Samba was just plain ridiculous and couldn;t stand it, but now enjoy most of them.  It maybe as someone suggested (sorry not to mention names, but I;ve just read through so many comments I really can't remember who wrote what little gems of genius), that there is more emphasis on the Chax3 being correct that the fun and enjoyment has gone out of it, whereas the Samba is getting some interesting choerography and there is less pressure to be perfect, so retaining the element of joie de vivre. Or something.

Anyway, week 7 and the competition will hot up. I think Stacey and Joe are earmarked for the final.  Of the two I prefer Joe, though I think Stacey is definitely the better dancer.  I'm just becoming a little Agin her and I can't really finger why.  But there is no logic to be applied to putting people into Afor and Agin camps, and it is very fluid in any case. Danny has a chance too, and as I am super Afor Amy this year that is where my votes (when I move to Wifi civilisation next week - yes, NEXT WEEK!!!! bounce bounce) will go.  

As an aside, though I didn;t get a chance to catch up with the results show (and I'm not bothering now) I was a) shocked that Graeme was in the dance off and b) pleased that flat-footed Seann went.  It was his time to go.
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Post  CaledonianCraig on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 am

diamondsandpearls wrote:Oh.

Most of you seemed ot get a lot more fun and entertainment out of the show than I did, with only one person (I think it was Mauve?)

No it never rocked my boat either. The ringers continued to soar and be fawned over despite their dance qualifications whilst the majority of the dances saw couples struggle.
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Post  allsewnonbyhand on Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:16 pm

D&P wrote:In case you were wondering, I haven't had a chance to visit wifi-land because I have been entertaining friends and their very adorable 1 year old baby, who is now my new best friend - together we enjoyed many, many games of 'Open/Closed' involving the door of his Postman Pat truck and occasionally the stuffing inside of a Minion who said 'Bananas!' in a funny voice.  So funny we both rolled about on the floor laughing our socks off - the cute rabbit ones my Mum sent him in his case, and my nice stripey Smartwool ones in my case. I really do live the dream Laughing Laughing Laughing
Ooh that's sounds heavenly D&P! I love spending time with my great nephews and niece. I was definitely their new BFF last time, I was even promoted to the lofty heights of being the chosen wiper of bottoms - high praise indeed and a lovely chance for a chat in the bathroom!! It's amazing what you get to talk about Laughing
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Post  jingle on Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:14 pm

diamondsandpearls wrote:
Dianne surprised me.  I’ll admit it.  I have been so firmly agin her and her choreography all series (and last) that I wasn’t expecting a foxtrot on a themed week that would in any shape or form resemble the foxtrot I know and love (along with Aljaz). But basically she just put together a very nice foxtrot, but just dressed a bit weirdly. I was really pleasantly surprised, and Joe did pretty with it, though I wouldn’t have been as gushy as the judges.  I feel they want him in the finals as the non-ringer, been on a j ourney person, to counteract the very professional Ashley and Faye.
The rest?  Meh.

Yes, I've felt for the past few weeks that Joe's ability has been over-inflated by the judges, probably to legitimise the massive vote I assume he's getting. I don't mind in the least if he does go on to win it, but I won't have the judges (or Joanne Clifton, or Ian Waite) persuade me that he's a professional standard in ballroom. In my opinion, he has a tendency to crouch, his rear sticks out, he looks vacant at times, his elbows rise up....it's nowhere near perfect.

I've now subscribed to 3 Strictly-related Youtube channels - AJ, Janette, and Joe. They're all really interesting in showing more of the behind the scenes stuff. Have to say, I've really warmed to Janette from watching her vlogs, she comes across as a very warm and genuine person. A few of AJ's training vlogs reveal Lauren having a wicked sense of humour, it's a shame that side of her doesn't come across on the live show or ITT.   Unsurprisingly, Joe's vlogs are the more professionally made, and him and Dianne do a weekly analysis of their dances which is always interesting.  The pair of them get on SO well, I wouldn't be surprised if they're dating, their personalities are so well matched.
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Post  saxonsiren on Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:43 pm

Hi Alls, Jingle,Mauve,CC,B4p, Tango,Sid and diamonds catching a quick update whilst on hectic merry go round..I've not yet connected with Diane and not sure I will Tbh just not my cup of tea similar to Karen and Janette Crying or Very sad I try with the latter pair but still meh...
I have thought of joining the youtube vlogs? For some of the professionals . I feel Joe may have peaked a little early similar to Jason Donovan?
Kate I loved Ice Queen portrayal but fear she maybe in a weak middle of the table this week,

Plus can someone please direct the Musicality Director to the exit directly into a taxi us ally reserved for S,Rallan's rejects! Why oh why do we have tunes that do not match the dance and it's not suitable for live backing singers? Usually I'm happy with the singers however have winced at a few notes.Is it me? Possibly as I'm on a short fuse lately. ...topic all today first time ever dropped my phone down the toilet arghhhh. .. Evil or Very Mad

Big hugs all xxxx
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Post  B4p on Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:16 pm

flower stay strong sax, and don't forget to breeeeeeeeeeeeth flower
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 pm

allsewnonbyhand wrote:
Ooh that's sounds heavenly D&P! I love spending time with my great nephews and niece. I was definitely their new BFF last time, I was even promoted to the lofty heights of being the chosen wiper of bottoms - high praise indeed and a lovely chance for a chat in the bathroom!! It's amazing what you get to talk about Laughing

lol! lol! lol! Not sure I am especially envious of those lofty heights!!
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Post  diamondsandpearls on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:36 pm

saxonsiren wrote:Hi Alls, Jingle,Mauve,CC,B4p, Tango,Sid and diamonds catching a quick update whilst on hectic merry go round..I've not yet connected with Diane and not sure I will Tbh just not my cup of tea similar to Karen and Janette Crying or Very sad I try with the latter pair but still meh...
I have thought of joining the youtube vlogs? For some of the professionals . I feel Joe may have peaked a little early similar to Jason Donovan?
Kate I loved Ice Queen portrayal but fear she maybe in a weak middle of the table this week,

Plus can someone please direct the Musicality Director to the exit directly into a taxi us ally reserved for S,Rallan's rejects! Why oh why do we have tunes that do not match the dance and it's not suitable for live backing singers? Usually I'm happy with the singers however have winced at a few notes.Is it me? Possibly as I'm on a short fuse lately. ...topic all today first time ever dropped my phone down the toilet arghhhh. .. Evil or Very Mad

Big hugs all xxxx

Hi Sax - good to hear from you Smile Yes, I can't warm to Dianne either. iI can't put my finger in it but she just makes my eye twitch. Having seen Janette on ITT and knwoing she is married to the lovely Aljz I know she has a warm, fun side to her but I just think her choreography and teaching is meh. I blame her entirely for early exit of the Troll with spindly legs who was a ringer last year or the year before who sang wih JLS - that MJ at the barbers routine was awful. Karen is too much 'I'm so zany and crazy and FUN me! I eat ALL the time, yes ALL the time - it's so funny; see - look at me chomp on that chicken. Oh how funny and zany I am!'. And her choreography and teachings skills are also lacking.

Re Joe. he's a nice enough chap, but I would put him very much middle of the road, rather than the snapping at the hells of the ringers brigade. As Jingle said, his bottom sticks out still (though not as much as previously). I haven't noticed his elbows, though I take your word for it. As I don't know enough about it (ok, I know alsmost diddly squat) I will have to accept the judges' word that his footwork is good.

And so sorry to hear about your phone Sax.... I feel for you - but at the same time it did make me smile Very Happy Hope you have got it back to working order (bowl of rice?) Big hugs back to you I love you
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Post  allsewnonbyhand on Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 pm

cheers this was the nearest I could find to a wave Sax! Hello and good to hear from you, I hope you're keeping your chin up ( and your phone in future! Laughing )

diamonds wrote:not sure I am especially envious of those lofty heights!
No really, it's fab D&P- you get to hear all about the naughty boy from playgroup who is clearly leading my little pickle astray!  Rolling Eyes  not that he needs any leading I have to stop myself at laughing at him sometimes because  he has that naughty twinkle in his eye when he's knows he's pushing his luck Wink Thank god I'm not his parents, just the one who has fun!
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Post  B4p on Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:06 am

Well if Stacey's got pulled rib nerves, or inflamed ribs, I'm not sure how tomorrow's 'Street' dance will pan out. Maybe Kevin's ordered extra smoke and mirrors?
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Post  TANGOLERO on Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:13 pm

Love Danny John's deadpan comment about the Strictly Curse. "Won't worry me, I've been trying to get rid of the wife for years" lol!

He isn't a party animal and doesn't socialise with the rest but keeps his own counsel. Keep going Danny.... cheers
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Post  B4p on Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:46 pm

Love Danny, Loved The Cat, and love the Welsh. Hope he stays in for a while longer
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Post  TANGOLERO on Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:23 am

Looks like I'm first off, but I'm still a bit bemused by some of the scores.  In no particular order, as the saying goes:

I missed Lauren and A.J's dance and marks due to the dog going absolutely frantic at the pyrotechnic peewits starting early.  

Stacy and Kev, Street Commercial? Big applause for Kevin Clifton for his choreography in a dance form I'm not familiar with. Gave me a lot of pleasure because I was expecting a looser, less synchronised dance, more individual and it really wasn't. I actually really enjoyed it. No smoke and mirrors needed and Stacey looked a treat with her Carole Lombard hairstyle and street clothes fashion. Marks well deserved, and watch the girl go. Probably a share in D.O.T.N.

Kate and Aljaz, (be interesting to see what D&P made of that blue frock from a 1950 M&S collection for a tango. My mother had one without the side split for church social dances ? Black or red, yes, but blue? Any of the ballroom styles in elegant shading yes, but tango? No. ) The dance wasn't as bad as C raig made out and his daft marks are a real giveaway as to who he's seeing on the last train to San Fernando. Kate's turn will come, but maybe another week or two?

Felt really sorry for Danny J. One error and all the good stuff gets forgotten. It was an error of memory, not bad dance and never deserved a 4. C raig can be a real prat at times. Odd quickstep with elements of fusion in there, even a samba feel. Overall, I liked it, butr the marks showed no mercy.

Graeme and Oti turned out an error free top-hat and tails waltz , smooth and error free with the inevitable park-bench scenario. He may be on the danger list despite it.

Doc and Janette's Samba was lively and decent enough, but Jeanette spends too much time on floor spins that just take up time and don 't really prove anything. Another pair hard to place in the chop list. He improved on last week undoubtedly.

Ashley's professional level foxtrot only shows where it's all likely to end. I can't fault her dance or claim I don't enjoy it. I really do and she has a lovely personality, ringer or no. Such is Strictly and the G.B.P.

Much the same has to be said for Faye and Giovanni's tango. Didn't see the point of the cubic rube, but no doubt somebody will explain the deep inner vibes it emits? The dance and it's marks from the judges show where they also are at.

Charles and Karen I felt deserved a little better marks, but that flat cap alongside Karen's evening dress was a wacky idea from somebody. In street dance I can see it, but I never did see one in a ballroom night after all the demob suits disappeared when the war ended. General dance nights maybe, to see a Woodbine peering out from under one. Another pair on the uncertain  see-saw?

Joe and Diane. Not my idea of a paso-doble at all. With the current trend of bullfights being confined to Iberia and Mexico and hated everywhere else, the man has to use the woman as a cape or go the flamenco route in dance. Joe was as stiff as a mop in a bucket and his actions were very staged and posed like somebody was using a taser on him. Absolutely nothing or no one will convince me this was good dance or choreography and for once, C raig was the only one anywhere near the right score. If you disgree, watch it again, please.  If I were the bull I'd collapse in a laughing fit.

That's about it for now. Be interesting to see what you all think.  Wink


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Post  B4p on Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:29 am

I've been out watching the new 'Queen' Film (excellent) so I'll be watching the show tomorrow. From the Twitter feeds it sounded eventful?
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Post  mauveangel09 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:45 am

Some good routines tonight and I felt that most couples took it up a notch - dance of the night for me was Ashley and P asha's Foxtrot and I also greatly enjoyed Graeme's waltz.  What overshadowed tonight for me was the really bizarre scoring of several of the routines and the judges overt favouring of certain couples.  Although Kate and Alijaz's Argentine Tango was not brilliant, I didn't think that it was worth 4 points less than Ranj and Janette - for a routine that had a mistake and not much samba content but which was just glossed over by the judges - whereas we heard all the negative detail about Kate's routine and a ridiculous score of '4' from the fabu-u-lus darling one. Similarly -  B runo just throws in a '7' for the hell of it with Danny and Amy whereas the other judges had gone justifiably lower. Faye and Gio got '10's again -  it was a very good routine but I felt that 4 '9's would be more on it and don't get me going about Joe and the fawning again...…………………………….Evil or Very Mad

Sorry I sound like Mrs Grump - I'm sure I'll feel differently in the morning  (I did enjoy the show......honest..... Very Happy )  

Lauren and Aj - Jive - 8
I was dismayed by the costumes when I first saw them, but once the dance started I got it! Although she is not very graceful this dance suited her and I thought she showed great stamina and timing - as B runo said, it was a clean routine and I thought they did well.


Oti and Graeme - Waltz - 8
Just a lovely lovely classic waltz to a lovely piece of music in which I had a tear in my eye. They both looked so good and I felt Graeme nailed it this week with the rise and fall and the flow of the dance.  Oti taught him well.


Kate and Alijaz - Argentine Tango 6.5 perhaps 7
I so wanted to love this but I couldn't. I don't know how much of it was the awful blue dress - which I kept watching instead of Kate. It did nothing for her- she would have looked so much better in a black dress to complement Alijaz's suit and it would have made her look more sleek - I know this isn't the costume thread but I really feel the dress detracted from the feel of the dance. I agreed broadly with the judges (except CRH's score) that it had some good figures, lifts and positioning and I do think that they got the chemistry right but to me there just wasn't enough actual dancing and a lot of it seemed as though he was lifting her about. As often with Kate I feel she so very nearly gets it.

Janette and Ranj - Samba - 5
I suppose you have to hand it to him - he always gives it his best shot and is lively and energetic - which is I suppose why he is still there.  I think they have a nice partnership together.  It was an entertaining routine but for me not enough Samba and a timewasting floor sweep in the middle.   I think the judges over egged this one.

Stacey and Kevin - Street - 8
Strange to categorise this as Street - I felt it was actually more like an upbeat contemporary n umber with a bit of theatre in it.  I thought it worked well and Stacey for me must be one of the most improved dancers since the beginning of the contest - she certainly moved well and I wasn't watching Kevin all the time.

Danny and Amy - QS - 6
Bit of a disappointment. Apart from the timing issues and mistakes I felt that there was far too much out of hold and not much actual QS - which the judges didn't really comment upon. When it opened up it was like an American Smooth.  He certainly is a pro and carried off the mistakes well he is also entertaining and athletic but obviously struggles with learning the ballroom technique.

Ashley and P asha - Foxtrot - 10
Never thought I would think a 10 justified pre-Blackpool - but I couldn't fault this.   Must go down as one of the Classic SCD dances?  A proper smooth no-nonsense Foxtrot to a great track.  I just want to watch it again...…….

Faye and Gio  - Tango - 8
I wasn't enamoured with this really. I think it was a bit of a marmite routine - I'm sure I'll be out of kilter with everyone else but there was something just not quite right with it for me.  Whether or not it was the costume which I felt didn't do her any favours or the cube with which I agreed with CRH - didn't bring anything to the dance and sort of restricted it.  I do acknowledge that it was a precise fast Tango - not a stomp in sight - but she didn't feel comfortable with it and I don't think it was a '10' dance.

Karen and Charles - VW - 7
Liked this one - a solid VW - nothing earth shattering but I liked the fact they used the whole floor and I thought it flowed very nicely.

Joe and Dianne - Paso - 7
Not bad and he certainly makes a real effort with everything he does.  It did have some good bits but for me I thought he looked stiff a lot of the time and a bit like he was walking in some parts.  Once again the judges seemed to think it was wonderful - for me it was an ok performance. I keep thinking that everyone is seeing something different from what I see with these two.

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Post  CaledonianCraig on Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:03 am

Okay before I read anyone else's comments here are my thoughts on what I thought was a very enjoyable show (mostly):-

Lauren and AJ's Jive was in most parts a very good dance after an iffy start. She coped very well (better than I thought she would) with the quick and sharp kicks and flicks. Nice to see her character and expressiveness beginning to show now and she just seems so much more relaxed. 7.5

Graeme ans Oti's Viennese Waltz was a great dance. They both looked elegant and it was plain, simple, with the ideal music and he had nice control and rise and fall. A 6 from C.raig was just wrong. 8

Kate and Alijaz's Argentine Tango had much to love about it. The lighting was epic along with the lone violin player. The mood was set very well and it was a dance that had intimacy and intricacy. There may have been an odd error but again C.raig's scoring and remarks were poor. Undermarked for me. 7.5

Dr Ranj and Janette's Samba for me lacked snap and the party feel and at the start his steps were stompy but (yawn) he got gushing remarks. Seems to be the teacher's pet. Way overmarked. 6

Stacey and Kevin's Street and Commercial was too hard to judge. What I do know is that dance should be about being on their feet anf the first 20 seconds were spent sat at a table. When they got going they had great sync. As I couldn't work out what I was looking for I gave it 7.5.

Danny and Amy's Quickstep began with a spin in which he was unbalanced and it was strewn with errors thereafter. Again it had that stacatto feel to it at times. It had its moments but the errors over-rode everything. A dance that surprisingly puts him in peril from nowhere. 5.5

Ashley and Pasha's Foxtrot had faffing at the start but once underway it was clinically faultless. Left me cold. Meh but what the heck 8.5.

Faye and Giovanni's Tango had music that didn't suit. Again pretty much faultless dance from another ringer. As I sat watching I wrote down bring on the real learners please. Judge picked up on one or two faults yet gets three 10's. Whatever. 8.5

Charles and Karen's Viennese Waltz was a solid effort. Better than I thought it would be. Although his posture was a bit off at times his footwork and timing was great. 7

Joe and Dianne's Paso Doble I felt saw Joe wobbly at the start and that slide and step move was messy. Had decent attack though. Good but not his best yet the judges gushed and Shirley was bloody embarrassing. 7

Who should be in the dance-off? For me Danny and Dr Ranj. Who will be there? Due to being under-marked Kate and maybe Danny.
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Post  allsewnonbyhand on Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:49 am

Lauren and AJ I thought she did a good attempt at the jive and kept it up. I quite liked the skate park theme, makes a change  from 50s diner. I hope they don't get forgotten after going first
Graeme and Oti I know it's been done to death, but the simple elegant and a bit saccharine waltz totally got me, I loved it. I must admit I had a tear in my eye, I'm a sucker for a lovely story. It all came together beautifully. And it was nice to see how much it meant to him.I gave him my votes tonight and one for Kate because she was injured.
Kate and Alijaz what a shame that she was injured because it had the potential to be amazing - the music  -shout out to  Millie the violinist - no gimmicks just the dance. I wonder how good she would have been fully fit. I'd like to see it again, but not in the dance off! I'm worried for her
Ranj and Janette it's difficult to be objective because I really want him to go next, but I did think this was overmarked, he seemed to go from one series of moves to another without any linking.On a very personal note, I was cross that having turned up the volume to drown out the noise of fireworks outside, they had the same blimmin effects in their piece Evil or Very Mad my fur babies were not impressed. I agree with them
Stacey and Kevin well this worked for me better than I thought ( I was with Rufus on it) but I found it very watchable. I think these two are a great partnership- I found I was watching them both, as it was a real duet. As with all the couples' choices, hard to know how to mark and for me it totally begs the question what about the showdance? Surely this is one and the same?
Danny and Amy I couldn't work out what was wrong with this as I was watching, it just felt that something wasn't right and I didn't know why. Then the judges explained it! I actually hope on this occasion that he is in the DO just so he can nail it. The VT almost foretold it- was it actually a case that he hadn't nailed it in training?
Ashley and Pasha great choreography from Pasha- I've decided to let go that she's a ringer and just enjoy it.
Faye and Giovanni firstly can I just say the music was rubbish- not that it affected them, but I would love to see that again to decent music. I thought she did a really good job, I did notice a couple of wobbles but overall, good job
Charles and Karen thank goodness they didn't rehash the dancing in a pub that we had with Kevin before. He's a bit forgettable though isn't he? I can see why he's not getting votes. Maybe it's also something to do with Karen.
Joe and Karen another case of the music being rubbish. I can see how he had worked on shaping but I thought he was a bit ploddy  in a couple of places- I was glad that Cr.aig noticed too. He did a good job overall.

Who's for the chop?? If it's Danny v Kate I fear for her. I hope she avoids the DO. It would certainly be more interesting because if it's not Kate it could be anyone in the bottom half

Now looking forward to reading what everyone else thought...
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Post  jingle on Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:24 am

Can’t believe we’re past the half way mark now, where does the time go?  Last night was a bit of a come-down from Halloween, especially in the costume side of things. Like others have already said, some of the outfits really detracted from the dance, especially that horrid blue AT dress for Kate (and Aljaz's purple and black lace-effect trousers, ewww). It’ll be really interesting to see who’s in the dance off tonight, I haven’t a clue.

Lauren – really didn’t like her outfit, although the jive was sharper than I’d expected, and I’m glad AJ didn’t include Mollie as a pretend ex girlfriend (speaking of which, we had Mollie, Debbie and Ruth in the audience but no T.ess interviews with them. What a waste! Maybe they’ll be included in tonights show instead. The three of them would also make a dream Friday panel).

Graeme – loved the staging and costumes for this. It was quite a simple waltz, but the dance fitted him like a glove.  I was moved by his emotion after the dance too.

Kate – sorry, I didn’t enjoy this AT one bit. I’m surprised it was choreographed by Vincent, because in most parts the routine looked quite fumbled and stilted, and I agreed with Shirley, I couldn’t see the chemistry between her and Aljaz.   Just as an aside, it was interesting to find out that Kate had also needed medical attention for a rib injury during the week, but unlike Stacey she hadn’t splashed it all over social media or tweeted hospital photos etc. An extra point for Kate in my book.

Ranj – the main issue with this I felt was that the beat of the music was too slow for a proper samba. I thought this routine looked laboured, and repeated quite a few of the same moves from his much more dynamic salsa several weeks ago.  I was puzzled by the words used by the judges…flamboyant, dazzling etc. I couldn’t see it.

Stacey – to be honest, I’m not sure I know what street commercial entails, so no idea if this was a good interpretation or not. Whatever it was, it was obviously done very well, but I just can’t get into Stacey’s dancing.Maybe it’s Kevin which puts me off, or maybe it’s her self-promotion, not sure.

Danny – oh dear, a true dance dis-aaaas-ter. Although if he’s in the dance off and gets it right, it could be a really good routine. I had to laugh at part of their training video, where Amy says’ good boy, gold star' and he quips ‘I feel like a labrador’

Ashley – Easily dance of the night for me. I thought it deserved a full 40. In the battle of the ringers, I think Ashley is a whisker above Faye (though I’m still hoping for a ringer dance-off before finals week)

Faye – a bit too disjointed and snappy for me, and I found the neon cube quite distracting.

Charles – this was an ok VW, nice enough but nothing spectacular. I find Charles looks a bit round-shouldered sometimes, but I think that may just be his muscle bulk rather than poor posture.

Joe – I rewatched the show twice, and the only two dances which looked worse on the re-watch were Kate’s AT and Joe’s paso. The paso really doesn’t look good to me, the footwork is skippy at times, there’s huge gapping between him and Dianne, it just doesn’t work for me (although Dianne gets my dress of the night award).  A Shirley hug is not a Hollywood handshake, and I don’t want to see it again!



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Post  mauveangel09 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:40 am

I'm so glad that others felt the same way about Joe's dance - I was starting to doubt myself. In parts I kept thinking about Christopher Parker in series 1 - how can the judges tell us that this dance was so good? confused

Mr T - I hadn't read your comments when I put mine up last night and I mentioned the Kate's blue dress - I loved your description 'M & S 1950s style' Laughing

I surprised myself in liking Ashley's routine so much - super ringer yes - but I just decided to concede for last night as it was such a lovely Foxtrot.

I agree with all of you that it is hard to predict who might be in the drop zone this week...……………………………

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Post  CaledonianCraig on Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:59 am

It is clear that the judges have an agenda and their own darlings. Obviously, you have the ringers that can do no wrong in the shape and form of Ashley and Faye. Even if faults are picked they still pluck 9 and 10 paddles out. Also in this category are Joe and Stacey who have been very consistent but even when their level seems to dip the judges still drool and Danny comes into that category but he takes a little more criticism. The odd darling is Dr Ranj he can roll out some poor dances but the judges still overmark even if it means complimenting his teeth. What the hell do they have to do with dancing?

The rest are open to overly harsh criticism and picked up on for the smallest faults and evidently marked down for it. Those are Charles, Graeme, Lauren and Kate.
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Post  mauveangel09 on Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:29 am

That sums it up very well CC


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Post  TANGOLERO on Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:27 am

[quote="mauveangel09"]I'm so glad that others felt the same way about Joe's dance - I was starting to doubt myself.  In parts I kept thinking about Christopher Parker in series 1 -  how can the judges tell us that this dance was so good? confused

Ah, yes, that's the badger I was trying to remember last night Mauve. Had a senile memory moment on his name. I well remember him leaping about like somebody had dropped a "jumping jack" firework down his pyjamas and waving a tea-towel round his head like a demented Morris dancer. Joe's wasn't quite that bad, but definitely won't be utilisied by the Spanish tourist board. It was up there with a Sergent coal sack and Tugboat Annie routine for laughs. Austen Healey worry not. Very Happy

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Post  CaledonianCraig on Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:56 am

Purely, for you TANGOLERO and as dear old Shaw Taylor used to say: 'Don't have nightmares.'

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Post  TANGOLERO on Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:43 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:Purely, for you TANGOLERO and as dear old Shaw Taylor used to say: 'Don't have nightmares.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-SK3PIxfck

Thanks C.C. So utterly awful it was wonderful to watch. What on earth was Nicole thinking about. Magic, I'll play it again... lol!
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